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Post by Admin on Dec 17, 2015 9:14:42 GMT
We are all here coming from pol and are very likely to have different viewpoints on how to make this work and what our core values and society project should be.
Here's a thread where anyone can state, in as much details as possible, why he is here, what inspire him and how he'd see things if he was in charge here.
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vendetta92
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Post by vendetta92 on Dec 17, 2015 9:25:22 GMT
A society for the white race specifically to grow and prosper where large scale degeneracy is not allowed (interracial marriages) immigration from non indigenous peoples to our lands. But for the white citizens the bill of rights that exists in the USA shall be granted to all citizens. National Socialism shall be the government and only whites that contribute to the system (military, labor) shall receive benefits from it. Attachments:
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Post by Admin on Dec 17, 2015 12:52:52 GMT
How I see it so far
What is our great, long term purpose : -To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again.
What we aim for : -Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals
What we want to avoid/escape : -multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism
What we need to achieve it : Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter
To sum up : I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time.
In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here.
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vendetta92
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Post by vendetta92 on Dec 18, 2015 4:38:30 GMT
Why avoid warmongering? It was what led our white ancestors to expand and create the civilization we call the human race today and now it is being destroyed by shitskins everywhere. I'm all for a peaceful homeland but i want supper aggressive expansionism of our people in the long run.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 5:08:10 GMT
Why avoid warmongering? It was what led our white ancestors to expand and create the civilization we call the human race today and now it is being destroyed by shitskins everywhere. I'm all for a peaceful homeland but i want supper aggressive expansionism of our people in the long run. That will ultimately destroy us, we must try to make as many friends as possible until we have the power to challenge other nations.
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Post by vnofd5 on Dec 18, 2015 21:30:31 GMT
What it would exist for: A haven, free from left-wing fascism whilst having no obvious examples of suppression/racism/aggression that might provoke attention and disapproval from the outside world. It would exist to shelter us from the increasing insanity of the politically correct world.
Who could go: Anyone willing and able to take on a serious job to help out. Priority would be given to people who can show they are like-minded /pol/ chaps (especially those who were here at the beginning.
The Politics: We make a clean break from the modern political models. Our lawmakers consist of: A Governing Council: These people, twenty-one of them and serving five year terms (elected by the public and only allowed to run as Independents), come up with laws and ideals. Once they've drafted a new law, it's circulated in plain English to every citizen. The Public: A public vote, indeed a referendum, takes place on that law. A system of Mandatory Voting means it is the duty of every citizen to vote for or against the laws. Obviously there are some things too trivial to require such votes (something such as the implantation of new Health and Safety rules, etc) which would be the duty of: The Regulation Board: Twenty-five people, chosen randomly (in the same vein as Jury Duty), approve new trivial matters that are brought to their attention by the public. They're inferior when compared to the Governors and if decisions cause too much of a ruckus, they'll be hauled before a Public Inquiry answering to a board of eleven (chosen randomly, again like Jury Duty) citizens to explain their actions. The Inquiry will then make a recommendation to the Governors if they believe a vote should be held on the rules the Regulation Board want to implement.
All rules on the affairs of justice, immigration, foreign affairs, defence, etc, will be decided by way of the very first round of public votes held in the days after the citizens of The Gloriously Democratic Polony initially arrive.
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Post by britbong on Dec 18, 2015 21:33:55 GMT
What it would exist for:A haven, free from left-wing fascism whilst having no obvious examples of suppression/racism/aggression that might provoke attention and disapproval from the outside world. It would exist to shelter us from the increasing insanity of the politically correct world.
Who could go:Anyone willing and able to take on a serious job to help out. Priority would be given to people who can show they are like-minded /pol/ chaps (especially those who were here at the beginning.
The Politics:We make a clean break from the modern political models. Our lawmakers consist of: A Governing Council: These people, twenty of them, come up with laws and ideals. Once they've drafted a new law, it's circulated in plain English to every citizen. The Public: A public vote, indeed a referendum, takes place on that law. A system of Mandatory Voting means it is the duty of every citizen to vote for or against the laws. Obviously there are some things too trivial to require such votes (something such as the implantation of new Health and Safety rules, etc) which would be the duty of: The Regulation Board: Thirty people, chosen randomly (in the same vein as Jury Duty), approve new trivial matters that are brought to their attention by the public. They're inferior when compared to the Governors and if decisions cause too much of a ruckus, they'll be hauled before a Public Inquiry answering to a board of twelve (chosen randomly, again like Jury Duty) citizens to explain their actions. The Inquiry will then make a recommendation to the Governors if they believe a vote should be held on the rules the Regulation Board want to implement. All rules on the affairs of justice, immigration, foreign affairs, defence, etc, will be decided by way of the very first round of public votes held in the days after the citizens of The Gloriously Democratic Polony initially arrive. Council of 20? Make that an odd number, like 21, to avoid deadlocks.
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vnofd5
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Post by vnofd5 on Dec 18, 2015 21:36:19 GMT
Good point, fellow Bong. I shall change my glorious manifesto.
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Post by Rijk on Dec 19, 2015 7:06:36 GMT
We need to look at a set basis of how we are to form our society. For example, there needs to be an understandable amount of goals we have to set in aspects that are not just cultural or scientific, but also economic, intellectually, traditionally, and politically.
PERSIA chart, as a starting basis, would be a good idea to base it off of. What's a PERSIA chart, you ask? Why, it's a little thing that those who research historical geography tend to adapt to describe different states and civilisations that have existed.
Political Economic Religious Social Intellectual Art = PERSIA
Note: Ideas will be marked with a [#] that are to be followed. These numbers will reset with each category, so that P[3] will not be the same as E[3].
Politically, I would hope a society we could make would be very open. Freedom of speech[1], freedom of slander[2], freedom to ask questions.[3] Transparency in the government[4] to the citizens on matters would also seem to be fairly important. If we can trust each other, then we can work together. When there isn't trust in a government, there are often problems that arise. Not only does transparency and trust need to be taken into consideration but, also does the necessity to form government. If we are to make a government based on [1-3] then I'd assume this government would, in at least some way, be populist[5]. By being [5], I mean that it is given sovereignty and consent by the people and from the people. However, I do not agree with universal suffrage. Suffrage should instead be based on whether or not the person has passed courses that give them the note as a "voter" as opposed to being a citizen[6], which would have key differences in responsibility. Although such ideas may contradict with [5], I believe that following a path along [6] would much better support an effective and intelligently designed government, as opposed to one which falls out of favour, as has the United States and many others.
Furthermore, a structure based on the checks and balances system in the United States government might be too extreme. This inhibits progress and tends to be full of back-talk, bribery, and corruption. Instead a checks and balances needs to be made between only two branches, which I propose to be one Legislative[7], charged with the duties to form legislation based on the demands and needs of the civil populace and the interest of the voters[6], and to remove[8] and amend[9] laws that have failed in practice as opposed to their intentions in theory. The next branch will be Executive[10], which holds responsibilities of enforcing laws[11], ensuring the safety of the state[12], the health of the nation as a coherent identity[13], and the protection of the structures[14] to be adopted in a very precise binding constitution[15].
This [15] should be very direct and should state a very few articles in which the nation shall not deviate from[16]. It should not be able to be changed or amended[17] in any way.
Now, moving on to Economics. A healthy private sector should be officially encouraged[1], however, the state should retain a monopoly on certain guaranteed services[2] such as housing[3], electricity[4], water[5], healthcare[6], and other basic social services[7] such as schooling and otherwise. The state should retain these monopolies because when entrusted in the hands of private companies, more often then not quality cannot be guaranteed and the actual goal that they serve (to shelter, to feed, to keep healthy) are diminished in the pursuit of profits. If the government, which creates organisations with the main goal of ensuring the quality of said services[8], controls these facets then they can continue to serve the people, who may then spend their excess money on material consumer goods, which then stimulates the private sector, and, by proxy, the economy[9].
Taxes on businesses should be slanted by profits[10]. With yearly reviews to check up on the money being made, the government can determine how much it takes against these numbers[11]. A corporate tax should be kept at a level low enough to encourage growth[12], but paradoxically be high enough that it establishes a healthy amount of money that can be pooled into government resources and services[13].
Further discussion on economics should be required, considering it is a very large and hard to tackle subject, but hopefully it can be done around parameters similar to that of National Socialist Germany, which faced amazing economic prowess and development. Similar plans should be put to action here[14].
Regarding Religion, I'd propose an officially secular state[1], however, a religion from either Catholicism or Eastern Orthodoxy[2] as an optimal religious foundation to form the state around. Individual practice of any sect of Christianity, however, should be tolerated[3], as it should be allowed to guarantee at least this much freedom of faith[4] to the people.
Understanding this, religions that do not follow the teachings of Jesus Christ will not be tolerated[5] and should be banned from practice, under the notion that they are not healthy for the development of a ethnoreligiously cohesive and healthy community or nationhood within the state[6]. This should be paramount in discussion on religion, for, even if Catholics and Orthodox worshipers begin to disagree too much, one must be favored over the other in the idea of a ethnoreligious cohesive and national health[7].
The Social sanctity of such an institution as the state and nation should be among the primary concerns of the government and community[1], due to it affecting nearly every other aspect of life within the state. Societal ills should not be tolerated and should be expunged from the nation under a strict Social Contract[2] which is signed by every member of the nation at admittance as an official citizen of the state (whether this is at 18 or perhaps 21, or any other program, is an interesting subject to further look into upon a later time[3]). This [2] will include the absolute abdication of behavior when regarding adultery, rape, polygamy, homosexuality, molestation, and other such unsocial conduct[4]. When a breach of the [2] is made, it should be brought upon legal means to officially control this dissidence and to decide upon whether or not they are to be punished and how harshly they are to be so by a fair trial at a court of law[5].
This should not come as any misunderstood sign. These [4] will not be allowed by legal amounts and will result in [5]. These should not be amended, either, as the creation of a morally pure and decent state should be a priority among its inhabitants[6] and the state[7].
Other antisocial activities can be prohibited as seen fit[8]. It will develop over time and cover a large range of activities which endanger the existence of [2] and [6], [7]. Although, this may seem restrictive and open, by returning to a traditionalist viewpoint and encouraging purity, monogamy, and faith, the state will certainly flourish[9]. Also, an environment of openness and opportunity should be made throughout the nation[10]. Any man should be able to rise and fall at his own choice, but be able to survive, nonetheless[11].
Hopefully there will be a lot of encouragement for Intellectual process in the nation and the community, especially by the education system which should focus on traditional values, the thirst for knowledge, and the logical advance of any sciences, whether natural or otherwise[1]. Research and development of new technologies and access to the most modern counter-parts should be a huge goal throughout the nation[2]. If encouraging such goals suits the nation, then it will allow further development[3].
Also, logical fallacies, debate principles, and subjects of controversy should be taught in the schools openly and enthusiastically[4]. Nothing should go unsaid and any subject should be free to be taught, no matter its subjective connotations or appearance[5]. Truth and the transparency of school and research in this way will allow solid evidence to outweigh emotions[6].
Basically Art is just culture. Pretty obvious what we'd like.
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Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 20, 2015 2:08:45 GMT
How I see it so far What is our great, long term purpose :-To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again. What we aim for :-Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals What we want to avoid/escape :-multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism What we need to achieve it :Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter To sum up :I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time. In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here. Political Economic Religious Social Intellectual Art = PERSIA Political: What is our great, long term purpose : -To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again. What we aim for : -Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals What we want to avoid/escape : -multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism What we need to achieve it : Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter To sum up : I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time. In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here. This Straight up
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Post by greatpersonhooray on Dec 30, 2015 4:51:35 GMT
How I see it so far What is our great, long term purpose :-To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again. What we aim for :-Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals What we want to avoid/escape :-multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism What we need to achieve it :Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter To sum up :I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time. In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here. This is exactly how I feel. We can develop a great library of human knowledge stored in various different formats, all locked away safely.
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Post by polack on Dec 30, 2015 4:53:37 GMT
How I see it so far What is our great, long term purpose :-To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again. What we aim for :-Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals What we want to avoid/escape :-multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism What we need to achieve it :Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter To sum up :I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time. In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here. This is exactly how I feel. We can develop a great library of human knowledge stored in various different formats, all locked away safely. Thats why i plan on brining the best books and the people who know the most languages so we can keep western information on the island and be comfy in the event of a collapse and merge from the island and go from there.
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jinx
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Post by jinx on Dec 30, 2015 11:55:03 GMT
How I see it so far What is our great, long term purpose :-To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again. What we aim for :-Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals What we want to avoid/escape :-multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism What we need to achieve it :Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter To sum up :I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time. In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here. This is exactly how I think this should be set up and indeed the ideal society of this new and confusing modern age. However, I fear we will come into conflict with the zealots of natsoc and these white nationalist degenerates who would hurt our cause for civilization and tradition as well as threaten our continued existence from within and also how we are perceived abroad.
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Post by polack on Dec 30, 2015 12:02:13 GMT
How I see it so far What is our great, long term purpose :-To be an emergency back up file for human civilization in the event of a collapse, whether it is nuclear, bacteriological, ecological -To preserve the knowledge of mankind in the event of a massive cultural drawback (I.e. Muslim invasion on a global scale) and keep it in the secrecy of our remote land until the time to expand civilization is right again. What we aim for :-Independence from countries, both legal and economical -self sustainability -ecology -peace and non interventionnism -survivalist culture, multiskilled individuals What we want to avoid/escape :-multiculturalism -warmongering -degenerate propaganda and lobbies -religious zealots -flawed corporate capitalism What we need to achieve it :Soil, houses, food, heat, electricity, Internet connexion, water supply, legal system, law enforcement, border patrol, education system, recruitment system, efficient skill management system, health system, pepper mentality, nuclear shelter To sum up :I don't think we are to be a significant political power. Not in our lifespan at least. Our aim is to create a micronation away from the many turmoils of our decaying world and rebuild in case shit hits the fan big time. In addition : I'm against referring to any past political regime. We could start something very new here. This is exactly how I think this should be set up and indeed the ideal society of this new and confusing modern age. However, I fear we will come into conflict with the zealots of natsoc and these white nationalist degenerates who would hurt our cause for civilization and tradition as well as threaten our continued existence from within and also how we are perceived abroad. we need a decent amount of genetic diversity and at least 200 hundred men and 200 women too make sure we won't interbreed for at least 2 generations
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Post by jinx on Dec 30, 2015 12:04:26 GMT
This is exactly how I think this should be set up and indeed the ideal society of this new and confusing modern age. However, I fear we will come into conflict with the zealots of natsoc and these white nationalist degenerates who would hurt our cause for civilization and tradition as well as threaten our continued existence from within and also how we are perceived abroad. we need a decent amount of genetic diversity and at least 200 hundred men and 200 women too make sure we won't interbreed for at least 2 generations Exactly how will we encourage female migration? Or do we simply purchase Ukrainian mail order brides.
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