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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 0:56:25 GMT
We obviously need to way to get back and fourth from our colony. One person on /pol/ suggested a seaplane to transport cargo, which is a nice idea but I'd recommend an old military boat, which can house lots of crew members and can be bought for less than $75,000 USD. Obviously we'd need to save money and pay for this as a group. It sounds expensive, but can be done easily if we all chip in.  Next; weapons, we might upset a lot of people doing this, so we need a way of defending ourselves and making sure they know we're serious. I suggest we use battle rifles chambered in .308, which is powerful at long ranges yet affordable and abundant. M1A or FN FAL spring to mind.  Now laws are making it harder and harder to get these two things in one place, so one of our USAbros (particularly in the south) will have to purchase them, looking at you vendetta92. |
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Post by vendetta92 on Dec 18, 2015 1:21:53 GMT
The best part is that i currently own that exact rifle lel (DSA SA58 to be exact) the rifle uses 7.62x51 and .308 interchangably .308 is hunting round higher pressure 7.62x51 slightly lower bullet weight and pressure but as you sad yes it is very abundant, the South is full of guns and it would not be hard for me or others to aquire more here and put together an armory per se.
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Post by britbong on Dec 18, 2015 1:31:20 GMT
tfw no gun license
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 1:33:20 GMT
You don't need one, we'll most likely be setting sail from the US. |
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Post by vendetta92 on Dec 18, 2015 1:40:57 GMT
You don't need one, we'll most likely be setting sail from the US. Exactly, i could simply buy another rifle for 'myself' or a hundred for that matter meet up with everyone we load them plus all the ammo and supplies on a ship in the port of New Orleans and set sail. In the US there are no 'gun licenses' the only restrictions depend on state and if your a convicted felon. |
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Post by britbong on Dec 18, 2015 2:03:12 GMT
You don't need one, we'll most likely be setting sail from the US. I know but it feels bad |
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Post by vendetta92 on Dec 18, 2015 2:34:06 GMT
You don't need one, we'll most likely be setting sail from the US. I know but it feels bad It's okay someday you'll get to play around with real military grade guns. This would be my choice of standard issue weapon for 'our' military. The FAL because it's good and very reliable. Also the 7.62x51 round offers far better penetration and killing range than the AR-15 5.56 round which means that we wouldn't not have to rely as much on 'heavy weapons' aka light machine guns, machine guns, and mortars. Each rifle would get an ACOG(TA11E model to be exact) which for those who don't know acts as a fixed power scope 3.5x magnification along with the RMR( the little thing on top of the ACOG) which acts as a red dot sight for very up close work. The FAL excels in medium to long distance engagements it is not the best option for close quarters due to it's 21 inch long barrel and it's design but the trijicon RMR would help negate that disadvantage. Attachments:
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Post by britbong on Dec 18, 2015 2:50:30 GMT
It's okay someday you'll get to play around with real military grade guns. This would be my choice of standard issue weapon for 'our' military. The FAL because it's good and very reliable. Also the 7.62x51 round offers far better penetration and killing range than the AR-15 5.56 round which means that we wouldn't not have to rely as much on 'heavy weapons' aka light machine guns, machine guns, and mortars. Each rifle would get an ACOG(TA11E model to be exact) which for those who don't know acts as a fixed power scope 3.5x magnification along with the RMR( the little thing on top of the ACOG) which acts as a red dot sight for very up close work. The FAL excels in medium to long distance engagements it is not the best option for close quarters due to it's 21 inch long barrel and it's design but the trijicon RMR would help negate that disadvantage. You'd know more than me. Although I can make homemade mortars and explosives... for peaceful purposes |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 18, 2015 2:53:02 GMT
It's okay someday you'll get to play around with real military grade guns. This would be my choice of standard issue weapon for 'our' military. The FAL because it's good and very reliable. Also the 7.62x51 round offers far better penetration and killing range than the AR-15 5.56 round which means that we wouldn't not have to rely as much on 'heavy weapons' aka light machine guns, machine guns, and mortars. Each rifle would get an ACOG(TA11E model to be exact) which for those who don't know acts as a fixed power scope 3.5x magnification along with the RMR( the little thing on top of the ACOG) which acts as a red dot sight for very up close work. The FAL excels in medium to long distance engagements it is not the best option for close quarters due to it's 21 inch long barrel and it's design but the trijicon RMR would help negate that disadvantage. Nice rifle, we won't need weapons designed for CQB though as the island we populate will be completely empty, that's why I chose battle rifles. |
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Post by vendetta92 on Dec 18, 2015 2:57:56 GMT
It's okay someday you'll get to play around with real military grade guns. This would be my choice of standard issue weapon for 'our' military. The FAL because it's good and very reliable. Also the 7.62x51 round offers far better penetration and killing range than the AR-15 5.56 round which means that we wouldn't not have to rely as much on 'heavy weapons' aka light machine guns, machine guns, and mortars. Each rifle would get an ACOG(TA11E model to be exact) which for those who don't know acts as a fixed power scope 3.5x magnification along with the RMR( the little thing on top of the ACOG) which acts as a red dot sight for very up close work. The FAL excels in medium to long distance engagements it is not the best option for close quarters due to it's 21 inch long barrel and it's design but the trijicon RMR would help negate that disadvantage. Nice rifle, we won't need weapons designed for CQB though as the island we populate will be completely empty, that's why I chose battle rifles. While i agree in principle i do not agree in practice, when it comes to firearms/service rifles you want to be prepared for any situation cqb or otherwise to that end this setup would perform that as best as possible in my opinion. We may very well have to take an island that doesn't belong to anyone of importance or defend the island and once anyone deemed an enemy is on the island i would prefer to have that RMR red dot up top just in case combat somehow boils down to <100 meters. |
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Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 20, 2015 2:12:55 GMT
Just remember.. SeaLab was invaded by guys with Guns. and what were trying to accomplish is far crazier.
I support a system of BYOG (Bring Your Own Gun)
If someone feels the need to have weaponry to protect themselves thats all fine and dandy but i also dont think we need to have a 'military' as much as have a generally trained militia of the folks who brought their own weaponry.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 2:40:51 GMT
I support a system of BYOG (Bring Your Own Gun) If someone feels the need to have weaponry to protect themselves thats all fine and dandy but i also dont think we need to have a 'military' as much as have a generally trained militia of the folks who brought their own weaponry. No, we need weaponry. At least I want a rifle if I'm marching onto somebody else's land and I can't get jack shit in this country, let alone take it to another country. Oh, and just to be clear, nobody's forcing you to bring a weapon, but without them we are vulnerable and defenseless. |
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Post by britbong on Dec 20, 2015 3:46:16 GMT
I support a system of BYOG (Bring Your Own Gun) If someone feels the need to have weaponry to protect themselves thats all fine and dandy but i also dont think we need to have a 'military' as much as have a generally trained militia of the folks who brought their own weaponry. No, we need weaponry. At least I want a rifle if I'm marching onto somebody else's land and I can't get jack shit in this country, let alone take it to another country. I'm inclined to agree People who live in countries like bongistan can pay people with freedom to provide guns for them when the time comes. |
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Post by kebabremovalunit on Dec 30, 2015 13:07:48 GMT
For firearms we should be bring the M14(M1A but semi auto) 1 man in 5 should be have an 8x scope and be trained to use it. Everyone on the initial landing needs 1 rifle chambered in something equal to or above the power of 5.56x45 any extra guns we have should be taken no matter the caliber. I am willing to help get a hold of the rifles for the trip in America.
Edit: I say the M14 due to the fact the FN FAL chews the shit out of lower end optics and we won't be affording any Leopold scopes that cost 3k each
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Post by britbong on Dec 30, 2015 19:07:44 GMT
We should probably use very few different models of guns to standardise ammunition. Two sizes of ammunition, a lethal one for rifles (maybe 7.62x39) and something for handguns - let the freedomlanders decide.
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