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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 2:32:51 GMT
Post by britbong on Dec 17, 2015 2:32:51 GMT
ITT: Uninhabited islands, structures feasible to build and maintain on water, pacific micronations we can annex. Terra Nullius.
Our goals:
Clay
Sovereignty
Self-sustaining colony
Expansion
Points about potential clay:
Are there natural resources to sustain us? Can we grow food, fish, raise livestock?
Can we settle? Legally?
Will we be able to claim sovereignty?
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 2:38:15 GMT
Post by therusmasterofpol on Dec 17, 2015 2:38:15 GMT
pacific micronations we can annex.  |
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 2:40:41 GMT
Post by britbong on Dec 17, 2015 2:40:41 GMT
pacific micronations we can annex. (freedom.jpg) >imply we won't wait until WW3 and the collapse of society |
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Dec 17, 2015 2:59:50 GMT
Post by Deleted on Dec 17, 2015 2:59:50 GMT
Henderson Island The largest of the Pitcairn Islands, Henderson is uninhabited and incredibly flat, perfect for new developments. Pros: -Large -Easy to reach from Pitcairn Island -Flat -Beautiful Cons: -Protected as a UNESCO World Heritage Site -Technically part of the UK -Soil supposedly not suitable for farming South Orkney Islands 100% unclaimed and uninhabited (except for two research stations), the South Orkneys lie just north of the arctic peninsula. Pros: -Unclaimed -Huge -Easy to reach from Chile or Argentina Cons: -Isolated from major shipping routes -British and Argentine research stations present -Mostly covered by snow Various Pacific Atolls The majority of atolls in the Pacific Ocean are uninhabited, though they are usually part of a larger state (French Polynesia, Pitcairn Islands), however it is only a claim. Pros: -Ring shaped with shallow waters within -Beautiful -Flat Cons: -Usually owned by European/American nations -Often hard to reach -Relatively small -Ring shape makes travel across the island difficult
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Henk
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Age: 24
Country: Netherlands
Skills: Grow shite and make alcohol
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 3:01:40 GMT
Post by Henk on Dec 17, 2015 3:01:40 GMT
I like the idea of making our own island/boat. Attachments:
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 3:24:11 GMT
Post by britbong on Dec 17, 2015 3:24:11 GMT
I like the idea of making our own island/boat. 1. Why not both 2. Boats can't claim nation status, we need at least a token piece of land even if our de facto nation is not on it Might as well give up on that island that is a world heritage site. But the others could be something whether they are merely tokens for us to gain sovereignty or places we could establish. I'm going to bring up that unclaimed strip of Antarctica. It's not particularly viable to exist solely off of it, but if we established a permanent settlement there we could claim a small part and supply food from our man-made islands. As a new and independent colony we would not be a signatory of the Antarctica Treaty System. International law should favour us. |
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 4:29:38 GMT
Post by Leopold on Dec 17, 2015 4:29:38 GMT
I said this in another thread but I'll say it here again - my friends and I, we're going to visit Panama for the next few weeks in hopes of buying an island to develop a portion of the land into a resort. Since the resort will likely not take the entire island we may be able to sell land in the insular region of the island for cheap if you lot are willing to pay the development costs (including transport).
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 13:16:32 GMT
Post by Henk on Dec 17, 2015 13:16:32 GMT
I like the idea of making our own island/boat. 1. Why not both 2. Boats can't claim nation status, we need at least a token piece of land even if our de facto nation is not on it Might as well give up on that island that is a world heritage site. But the others could be something whether they are merely tokens for us to gain sovereignty or places we could establish. I'm going to bring up that unclaimed strip of Antarctica. It's not particularly viable to exist solely off of it, but if we established a permanent settlement there we could claim a small part and supply food from our man-made islands. As a new and independent colony we would not be a signatory of the Antarctica Treaty System. International law should favour us. The problem is, our man made islands won't be near Antartica because we need a good environment to grow our foods. I know we can make some geodomes or something but that makes the plan way more difficult. |
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Clay
Dec 17, 2015 20:12:12 GMT
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Post by crackerman420 on Dec 17, 2015 20:12:12 GMT
No need to get an uninhabited island, logistics would be difficult as it is. Just form a company or corporation and members of the colony can be employees, which would allow them work permits to enter the country legally. So any country really becomes an option, but obviously we are excluding ZOGified nations which include most of the first world. I would make a case for Africa, due to the cheap land and relative lawlessness, our options multiply, not to mention it is some of the most fertile land in the world but the locals being as they are have no idea how to use it properly. It would be hard to kick us out if, say, Rwanda or Botswana became one of the highest food exporting countries in Africa due to us. Just for consideration
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Clay
Dec 18, 2015 1:26:41 GMT
Post by britbong on Dec 18, 2015 1:26:41 GMT
No need to get an uninhabited island, logistics would be difficult as it is. Just form a company or corporation and members of the colony can be employees, which would allow them work permits to enter the country legally. So any country really becomes an option, but obviously we are excluding ZOGified nations which include most of the first world. I would make a case for Africa, due to the cheap land and relative lawlessness, our options multiply, not to mention it is some of the most fertile land in the world but the locals being as they are have no idea how to use it properly. It would be hard to kick us out if, say, Rwanda or Botswana became one of the highest food exporting countries in Africa due to us. Just for consideration Excluding ZOGified nations? I think that leaves us with best korea |
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Clay
Dec 18, 2015 8:18:14 GMT
Post by crackerman420 on Dec 18, 2015 8:18:14 GMT
Excluding ZOGified nations? I think that leaves us with best korea lel, I meant primary agents like NATO countries. Now that I think about it though, millions of people are leaving Syria and they are dealing with a labour shortage as it is, it's going to be even worse once the war ends. Not to mention it will be awash with unused weapons. Top candidates for me at least are the Congo and Botswana, where they are literally inviting white farmers into their country |
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Clay
Dec 18, 2015 19:24:11 GMT
Post by britbong on Dec 18, 2015 19:24:11 GMT
Excluding ZOGified nations? I think that leaves us with best korea lel, I meant primary agents like NATO countries. Now that I think about it though, millions of people are leaving Syria and they are dealing with a labour shortage as it is, it's going to be even worse once the war ends. Not to mention it will be awash with unused weapons. Top candidates for me at least are the Congo and Botswana, where they are literally inviting white farmers into their country Those countries - syria, congo, etc - are unstable and dangerous. Terrorism, organised crime, diseases, civil war. |
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Clay
Dec 19, 2015 23:04:43 GMT
Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 19, 2015 23:04:43 GMT
   These fucking things are seriously easy as shit to build and theyre cheap as fuck to. My family and i built a couple out in the desert years back. You can seriously live in one of these basically anywhere comfortably. |
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Clay
Dec 19, 2015 23:46:05 GMT
Post by britbong on Dec 19, 2015 23:46:05 GMT
View AttachmentView AttachmentView AttachmentThese fucking things are seriously easy as shit to build and theyre cheap as fuck to. My family and i built a couple out in the desert years back. You can seriously live in one of these basically anywhere comfortably. What supports those? How are they made? I don't think shelter is a problem so long as we have access to wood and/or stone anyway but it'll be nice to know. |
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Clay
Dec 19, 2015 23:50:23 GMT
Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 19, 2015 23:50:23 GMT
These fucking things are seriously easy as shit to build and theyre cheap as fuck to. My family and i built a couple out in the desert years back. You can seriously live in one of these basically anywhere comfortably. What supports those? How are they made? I don't think shelter is a problem so long as we have access to wood and/or stone anyway but it'll be nice to know. Shelter will always be an issue. The shelters need to be built both affordably.. and logically.. Easier to determine once we get an island picked. For example though we'd want the main hub of civilization to be nearby but not on the base of a hill or mountain but its also important where the usn rises and sets etc But they're made with Clay and cement. Basically just need Rebar, Cement, Clay, and manpower. |
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