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Post by britbong on Dec 20, 2015 3:50:35 GMT
Britain is surprisingly touchy about unoccupied islands. We'd be better off settling legally. And then going full 1776 once we've set up and become self-sufficient. |
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Post by paulblart on Dec 20, 2015 3:51:46 GMT
I'm for a greek island, but -Has to have NOBODY on it -'refugee' boats ive also been looking at other islands, ill put a list - piperi - highly protected so not really an option - arkoudi - looks to be privately owned, otherwise a good option - atokos - privately owned by a qatari but also possibly protected, possible option - svetac - croatian island, unowned, however from wikipedia "Now members of Zanki family effectively live there four to six months a year, still keeping up the houses of their grandfathers" so ?? - practically any island in the bass strait in australia - mostly protected, small, supreme shitposting - deal island of the bass strait - quite a few buildings, no clear protection information, airstrip, possible permanent population? definitely protected waters so no fishing - disappointment island - could be disappointed - auckland island - "it was designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1998" cold all year, fertile soil probably but probably not the best for agriculture, probably hard to get to - campbell island - very cold, world heritage site, mountainous - ruapuke island - not world heritage, close to new zealand, privately owned by indigenous - green island - not much information, looks nice, probably owned by indigenous - russian islands - UNNAMED = big problem, can only provide coordinates, but they are rather large and uninhabited, however very isolated. 54°52'32.5"N 137°40'22.6"E - idjwi island - already established permanent population, sparsely populated in the middle part of the island, in africa, tropical, surrounded by africans. i know someone wanted somewhere in africa but it doesnt look too promising - kodiak island in alaska - very large, south part mostly uninhabited except for natives, airports onto the island, guns, possible long-term complications - alaskan islands - mostly uninhabited and large, guns, not too many trade routes. - canadian arctic islands - mostly uninhabited, not many trees, some protected - calvert island - probably uninhabited, some protected, trees. slightly isolated. thats quite a list, we should consider all our options and figure out which would be best, or even if any of these would work. to narrow the list a bit i would say the best ones are - kodiak island - svetac - deal island - ? arkoudi - could make private owner angry, we would need weapons rather fast so if we decide this we will need to have an already established weapon supply. would probably mean needing to get involved in greek politics. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 3:53:01 GMT
We'd be better off settling legally. And then going full 1776 once we've set up and become self-sufficient. How do you suppose we get firearms into an EU country? How are we not settling legally if we chose Henderson? |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 3:55:26 GMT
ive also been looking at other islands, ill put a list - piperi - highly protected so not really an option - arkoudi - looks to be privately owned, otherwise a good option - atokos - privately owned by a qatari but also possibly protected, possible option - svetac - croatian island, unowned, however from wikipedia "Now members of Zanki family effectively live there four to six months a year, still keeping up the houses of their grandfathers" so ?? - practically any island in the bass strait in australia - mostly protected, small, supreme shitposting - deal island of the bass strait - quite a few buildings, no clear protection information, airstrip, possible permanent population? definitely protected waters so no fishing - disappointment island - could be disappointed - auckland island - "it was designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1998" cold all year, fertile soil probably but probably not the best for agriculture, probably hard to get to - campbell island - very cold, world heritage site, mountainous - ruapuke island - not world heritage, close to new zealand, privately owned by indigenous - green island - not much information, looks nice, probably owned by indigenous - russian islands - UNNAMED = big problem, can only provide coordinates, but they are rather large and uninhabited, however very isolated. 54°52'32.5"N 137°40'22.6"E - idjwi island - already established permanent population, sparsely populated in the middle part of the island, in africa, tropical, surrounded by africans. i know someone wanted somewhere in africa but it doesnt look too promising - kodiak island in alaska - very large, south part mostly uninhabited except for natives, airports onto the island, guns, possible long-term complications - alaskan islands - mostly uninhabited and large, guns, not too many trade routes. - canadian arctic islands - mostly uninhabited, not many trees, some protected - calvert island - probably uninhabited, some protected, trees. slightly isolated. thats quite a list, we should consider all our options and figure out which would be best, or even if any of these would work. to narrow the list a bit i would say the best ones are - kodiak island - svetac - deal island - ? arkoudi - could make private owner angry, we would need weapons rather fast so if we decide this we will need to have an already established weapon supply. would probably mean needing to get involved in greek politics. To narrow down your list, I think it would be best to avoid islands with populations above the single figures and islands owned by superpowers like Russia. |
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Post by paulblart on Dec 20, 2015 3:57:27 GMT
We'd be better off settling legally. And then going full 1776 once we've set up and become self-sufficient. How do you suppose we get firearms into an EU country? How are we not settling legally if we chose Henderson? henderson is protected, and just not a very good choice, see picture henderson island no.png (145.5 KB) as for firearms, some swiss guys could help out maybe, itd be hard to do though. |
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Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 20, 2015 3:59:19 GMT
is there any problem with the greek island? i just think not declaring ourselves as a seperate nation would be fine, we can simply stay out of the greek politics and just live seperately until we establish our own system and can succeed, or declare seperate nation. pitcairn islands are protected so more jimmies will be rustled by a colony there, and they arnt particularly great for agriculture or climate, and trade routes are sparse. getting there will also be a problem It is much more likely the Greeks will send in a task force next door to forcefully remove a group of armed autists who have taken over somebody's home than the British sending a battalion of troops to the other side of the planet to remove us from an uninhabited island in the middle of the ocean. Greece can't even take care of itself though lol Its like a half step above a failed state. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 4:00:09 GMT
henderson is protected, and just not a very good choice, see picture as for firearms, some swiss guys could help out maybe, itd be hard to do though. Henderson is not ideal, but I am yet to find a better alternative. Like what you said about firearms, it is ideal to find an island within sailing distance from the US. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 4:01:32 GMT
Greece can't even take care of itself though lol Its like a half step above a failed state. I wouldn't underestimate, the bureaucrats running the EU want a European army. |
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Post by paulblart on Dec 20, 2015 4:01:52 GMT
To narrow down your list, I think it would be best to avoid islands with populations above the single figures and islands owned by superpowers like Russia. when i said kodiak island i didnt specifically mean the mainland kodiak island, there are some smaller islands off the coast with no population. the russian islands are probably not the way to go anyway because unnamed and hard to do anything with, but even if they did get colonists on it i wouldnt have thought they would have been overly protective, its the other side of the world from west russia, closer to china really. but that still leaves us with 3 options, or 2 if we cut out the privately owned island. |
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Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 20, 2015 4:03:11 GMT
Im going ocean hunting on google maps. Will post coordinates if i find anything
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Post by paulblart on Dec 20, 2015 4:09:35 GMT
henderson is protected, and just not a very good choice, see picture as for firearms, some swiss guys could help out maybe, itd be hard to do though. Henderson is not ideal, but I am yet to find a better alternative. Like what you said about firearms, it is ideal to find an island within sailing distance from the US. what about an island near kodiak island? do you think the US would remove us if we try to declare sovereignty? |
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Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 20, 2015 4:10:02 GMT
 Might just have to grab a shitter island in this area. Guaranteed we can find a minimally populated island somewhere over there. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 4:14:29 GMT
what about an island near kodiak island? do you think the US would remove us if we try to declare sovereignty? Probably, have a look around the Bering Sea, perhaps there's a good piece of land there. |
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Post by britbong on Dec 20, 2015 4:36:51 GMT
We'd be better off settling legally. And then going full 1776 once we've set up and become self-sufficient. How do you suppose we get firearms into an EU country? How are we not settling legally if we chose Henderson? We don't take weapons into any country we're not allowed them. The Americans hold them until we gather and set sail. I'm for a greek island, but -Has to have NOBODY on it -'refugee' boats ive also been looking at other islands, ill put a list - piperi - highly protected so not really an option - arkoudi - looks to be privately owned, otherwise a good option - atokos - privately owned by a qatari but also possibly protected, possible option - svetac - croatian island, unowned, however from wikipedia "Now members of Zanki family effectively live there four to six months a year, still keeping up the houses of their grandfathers" so ?? - practically any island in the bass strait in australia - mostly protected, small, supreme shitposting - deal island of the bass strait - quite a few buildings, no clear protection information, airstrip, possible permanent population? definitely protected waters so no fishing - disappointment island - could be disappointed - auckland island - "it was designated a UNESCO World Heritage Site in 1998" cold all year, fertile soil probably but probably not the best for agriculture, probably hard to get to - campbell island - very cold, world heritage site, mountainous - ruapuke island - not world heritage, close to new zealand, privately owned by indigenous - green island - not much information, looks nice, probably owned by indigenous - russian islands - UNNAMED = big problem, can only provide coordinates, but they are rather large and uninhabited, however very isolated. 54°52'32.5"N 137°40'22.6"E - idjwi island - already established permanent population, sparsely populated in the middle part of the island, in africa, tropical, surrounded by africans. i know someone wanted somewhere in africa but it doesnt look too promising - kodiak island in alaska - very large, south part mostly uninhabited except for natives, airports onto the island, guns, possible long-term complications - alaskan islands - mostly uninhabited and large, guns, not too many trade routes. - canadian arctic islands - mostly uninhabited, not many trees, some protected - calvert island - probably uninhabited, some protected, trees. slightly isolated. thats quite a list, we should consider all our options and figure out which would be best, or even if any of these would work. to narrow the list a bit i would say the best ones are - kodiak island - svetac - deal island - ? arkoudi - could make private owner angry, we would need weapons rather fast so if we decide this we will need to have an already established weapon supply. would probably mean needing to get involved in greek politics. -has to have NOBODY it Did I stutter? |
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Post by paulblart on Dec 20, 2015 4:41:02 GMT
what about an island near kodiak island? do you think the US would remove us if we try to declare sovereignty? Probably, have a look around the Bering Sea, perhaps there's a good piece of land there. lets see, st matthew island, uninhabited, lakes for water, fish, seems possible, maybe best option if it has trees and fertile soil, but climate is a bit cold. cant find any info on soil but it doesnt look like there are many trees. if we bring deer back to the island there will not be the same overpopulation problem. a lot of empty volcanic aleutian islands, but earthquakes, i dont have much time right now to look for more islands, but there could be some good aleutian islands. |
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