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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 4:08:41 GMT
Okay, so here it is. I've chosen Henderson Island and the South Orkneys as the two best candidates, starting in the US is a necessity as we need to be able to arm ourselves for the job. The weapons must be dissembled and hidden away as we would be stopping at countries with strict gun control. The trip from Hawaii to Henderson is by far the shortest, though It would be much harder to obtain firearms there, so one of our Ameribros would need to help us out. Honestly, I didn't plan on doing this until at least 2030. But if you have the money and willpower, it could be done within a few years and I'd be happy to help out.  If you're wondering what Mm stands for, that's megameters, I know. Give me your thoughts! |
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Post by britbong on Dec 19, 2015 5:04:34 GMT
I notice the falklands is a stopping point on the journey.
Does anything about them remind you of why seizing islands might not be a good idea?
Henderson island: A world heritage site. Owned by pitcairn islanders and protected by the Commonwealth
South Orkney islands: Claimed by Britain AND Argentina. Both already have outposts there.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 5:22:09 GMT
I notice the falklands is a stopping point on the journey. Does anything about them remind you of why seizing islands might not be a good idea? Henderson island: A world heritage site. Owned by pitcairn islanders and protected by the Commonwealth South Orkney islands: Claimed by Britain AND Argentina. Both already have outposts there. The Falklands are there as a stopping point to refuel and resupply before making the final push to the South Orkneys. The UK and Argentina may have research stations there, but the island is under the Antarctic Treaty System- it does not belong to any nation. As for Henderson, Pitcairners only travel there once or twice a year to collect wood for their tourist souvenirs. It may be a world heritage site, but it is relatively isolated and has already been tampered with when the RSPB poisoned the rat population on the island. The United Nations are purists when it comes to nature and we can win them over by promising to protect the wildlife and feeding the bird population. Also the use of solar power will make them wet between the legs. |
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Post by britbong on Dec 19, 2015 6:24:08 GMT
How habitable do you think the South Orkney islands are?
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 6:33:33 GMT
How habitable do you think the South Orkney islands are? Well they are habitable enough for the Argentines to have a year round research base there. The climate is probably similar to Iceland or Svalbard. |
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Post by britbong on Dec 19, 2015 7:18:22 GMT
How habitable do you think the South Orkney islands are? Well they are habitable enough for the Argentines to have a year round research base there. The climate is probably similar to Iceland or Svalbard. Year-round research base doesn't mean that much. They probably import most or all their food. This is the antarctic tundra, you're gonna have a hard time doing anything but fishing for economy. |
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Post by paulblart on Dec 19, 2015 13:27:46 GMT
i posted this before but i think i should just leave this here to consider Kyra Panagia, its a medium-sized island in the greek archipelago, it is not a world heritage site, nor is it owned by a country who is going to force you out of it, we could control the island in return for greece denbts. getting guns there could be an issue, possibly some swiss bros could help but they arnt really necessary until a bit later. kyra panagia.jpg (581.73 KB) |
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Post by kebabremoval on Dec 19, 2015 15:18:50 GMT
i posted this before but i think i should just leave this here to consider Kyra Panagia, its a medium-sized island in the greek archipelago, it is not a world heritage site, nor is it owned by a country who is going to force you out of it, we could control the island in return for greece denbts. getting guns there could be an issue, possibly some swiss bros could help but they arnt really necessary until a bit later. I did some quick googling, couldnt find a source saying it is free to take. It apparently has a monastery and 2 residents... en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kyra_PanagiaOther than that a greek island would be really good as the climate makes it possible to have at least some agriculture and it is an attractive climate to possible reqruits. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 19, 2015 17:50:57 GMT
If Henderson Island isn't an option, there is always Oeno Island. It is smaller coral atoll with less protections and has a water pump already installed by the Pitcairners.  I really would rather take Henderson as it is much larger and isn't threatened by rising sea levels (if it is really true). |
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Post by paulblart on Dec 20, 2015 0:41:43 GMT
is there any problem with the greek island? i just think not declaring ourselves as a seperate nation would be fine, we can simply stay out of the greek politics and just live seperately until we establish our own system and can succeed, or declare seperate nation.
pitcairn islands are protected so more jimmies will be rustled by a colony there, and they arnt particularly great for agriculture or climate, and trade routes are sparse. getting there will also be a problem
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Post by chipsandhaterade on Dec 20, 2015 1:02:50 GMT
i posted this before but i think i should just leave this here to consider Kyra Panagia, its a medium-sized island in the greek archipelago, it is not a world heritage site, nor is it owned by a country who is going to force you out of it, we could control the island in return for greece denbts. getting guns there could be an issue, possibly some swiss bros could help but they arnt really necessary until a bit later. This is the closest so far guys. More research into it but i think were narrowing it down bros |
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Post by britbong on Dec 20, 2015 1:35:06 GMT
I'm for a greek island, but
-Has to have NOBODY on it
-'refugee' boats
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Post by Deleted on Dec 20, 2015 2:27:46 GMT
is there any problem with the greek island? i just think not declaring ourselves as a seperate nation would be fine, we can simply stay out of the greek politics and just live seperately until we establish our own system and can succeed, or declare seperate nation. pitcairn islands are protected so more jimmies will be rustled by a colony there, and they arnt particularly great for agriculture or climate, and trade routes are sparse. getting there will also be a problem It is much more likely the Greeks will send in a task force next door to forcefully remove a group of armed autists who have taken over somebody's home than the British sending a battalion of troops to the other side of the planet to remove us from an uninhabited island in the middle of the ocean. |
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Post by britbong on Dec 20, 2015 2:34:08 GMT
is there any problem with the greek island? i just think not declaring ourselves as a seperate nation would be fine, we can simply stay out of the greek politics and just live seperately until we establish our own system and can succeed, or declare seperate nation. pitcairn islands are protected so more jimmies will be rustled by a colony there, and they arnt particularly great for agriculture or climate, and trade routes are sparse. getting there will also be a problem It is much more likely the Greeks will send in a task force next door to forcefully remove a group of armed autists who have taken over somebody's home than the British sending a battalion of troops to the other side of the planet to remove us from an uninhabited island in the middle of the ocean. Nope. |
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