Island Location DIscussion Thread

Okay, so I see a lot of island suggestions around here, some of which are pretty good, others that aren't. First of all, ALL islands owned by the USA can be discarded. The USA has the power projection to wreck us, and has the nationalist policeman mentality to actually do so. The Mexican island, Clarion Island, is permanently manned by a garrison of Mexican Navy soldiers, so unless you want to murder them and protect yourself using their equipment, I really wouln't choose that one either. Then there's some nature reserves left:

-South Orkney
Really shitty climate, I'm not a farmer but it seems unlikely we can grow anything there. Good thing is that it falls under the Antarctic Treaty, banning parties from using military force in the area. This means that if we settle there peacefully, the UK cannot use force to expell us. Problem with this, I will stress, is that the islands are fucking cold and remote.

-any of the Pitcairns
Valid option, Henderson seems pretty good. Pitcairn military is nonexistant, I presume, and while the UK may oppose it I doubt they will seriously try to take back the island using force. If they do, we'll be captured and imprisoned for a while. If they don't, we have to make sure to get necessities quickly, because most countries will ban trade with us, and the UK might blockade us or take measures against countries trading with us. The fact that it is a nature reserve really doesn't matter that much, the UN might officially denounce us but noone cares, and if we have women on the island we can in fact claim statehood which would make sure the UN has to pass a resolution allowing military action, which is unlikely over such a crappy spot. I would propose trying to get diplomatic relations with South American countries, as they often don't really care for the rest of the world (see Julian Assange case), and might like us trolling the UK.

All in all, there is only a few spots that can realistically be taken over, one of which has a huge risk of someone actually doing something and the other one has a shit climate.

Yes, they do, but legally they cannot use force against us. If they are employed by the UK/Argentina, or given certain authority by these states, or even just given the means to exert authority, the mother country is legally responsible for actions taken by these researchers, and if we can classify as a nation we could get millions of dollars in compensation from them.

I identify as a trans-democratic people's republic, stop oppressing me by treating me like anything else.

Firstly for them intervening in the affairs of another state, but what I meant was them violating the aforementioned Antarctic Treaty to our detriment.

However, if we establish a nation the nation would also be responsible for the insurrection movement, so we cannot violate too many international treaties (even unsigned ones might apply to us, like the one banning foreign intervention), which is why we should settle peacefully.

I think you guys should also note that until someone finds out that we're claiming the island we'd probably have already established well enough to be self-sustaining food, energy and water wise. We need to remember that these islands are quiet isolated and people don't visit them too often.

Greenhouses man. We can grow food anywhere.